tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post1242356037144551571..comments2023-09-17T10:57:35.535+03:00Comments on Ukrainiana: Tymoshenko Says $228.8Tarashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-62426312418961068182009-01-28T12:15:00.000+02:002009-01-28T12:15:00.000+02:00Gazprom wants to sue Ukraine? Really? Didn't Tymos...Gazprom wants to sue Ukraine? Really? Didn't Tymoshenko assure us that she and Putin had agreed that neither side would sue the other?<BR/><BR/>You can hear it <A HREF="http://censor.net.ua/go/offer/ResourceID/111075.html" REL="nofollow">3:26 into this interview</A>.Tarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-56249975283703227952009-01-27T16:52:00.000+02:002009-01-27T16:52:00.000+02:00Taras, as between Tymo and Gazprom, in the context...Taras, as between Tymo and Gazprom, in the context of credibility, I believe Tymo far more than Gazprom.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I wouldn't believe Gazputkinprom at all.<BR/><BR/>Putking and Gazprom committed a colossal blunder simply because Putkin, with the Napoleon complex, was trying to beat his chest and show rooshans how powerful he is and how roosha deals with its "enemies" - which happens to be the entire world, according to roosha's self-made view.<BR/><BR/>Soooo - roosha/Gazprom loses over $2 billion due to the gas war - just so stupid rooskies can say "yep, we are powerful rooshans, we really learned 'em, we brought Europe and Ukraine to their knees."<BR/><BR/>Strange kind of "victory," if you ask me.<BR/><BR/>Now, stranger still, Gazprom wants to sue Ukraine for the losses.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what kind of drugs those rooskies are on, but they are sure powerful.<BR/><BR/>http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090126/119800961.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-35020547858343759462009-01-24T15:44:00.000+02:002009-01-24T15:44:00.000+02:00You’re absolutely right about the public’s right t...You’re absolutely right about the public’s right to know! <BR/><BR/>As of today, the full text of the agreement she signed remains undisclosed.<BR/><BR/>In the meantime, her math continues contradicting statements made by Gazprom and its subsidiaries. <BR/><BR/>On Friday, she said <A HREF="http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2009/1/24/88408.htm" REL="nofollow">this</A>:<BR/><BR/><I>I think that this year this company [Gazpromzbut Ukraine] will not sell a single cubic meter of gas on Ukraine’s domestic market, because they have no incentive. NAK Naftogaz Ukrainy sells without any markups and, in fact, sells gas at cost to industry, and therefore any domestic company…would not be competitive in the domestic market. Absent the profit motive, they [Gazpromzbut Ukraine] had no intention to do business.</I><BR/><BR/>(The notion that Naftogaz sells gas at cost strikes me as sensational in and of itself. But that’s beside the point.) <BR/><BR/>This year, Gazpromuzbut Ukraine plans to sell 6 bcm of gas to Ukrainian industry, or 25% of the forecast industry demand, CEO Anatoliy Podmyshalsky countered on Saturday. Gazpromuzbut Ukraine will sell its gas at prices set by Naftogaz. “<A HREF="http://www.unian.net/ukr/news/news-296813.html" REL="nofollow">There will be no other prices</A>,” Podmyshalsky emphasized.<BR/><BR/>So there she is, telling fairy tales and putting blinders on the public. <BR/><BR/>It reminds me of how she took pains to <A HREF="http://tap-the-talent.blogspot.com/2008/10/tymoshenko-backtracks-as-voters-flee-in.html" REL="nofollow">dismiss the notion of economic crisis as ‘scaremongering’ in October</A>.Tarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-14344643469121218112009-01-23T21:59:00.000+02:002009-01-23T21:59:00.000+02:00Interesting thing about that interview.Tymo says t...Interesting thing about that interview.<BR/><BR/>Tymo says that Ukraine will not be paying quarterly payments, only annual payments.<BR/><BR/>And that if there is a default,then Ukraine will have to pay in advance.<BR/><BR/>She also dodged the interviewer's question about when the agreements will appear in public.<BR/><BR/>All she said was that they are signed.<BR/><BR/>She also said that Ukraine is not in any danger of defaulting on its government debt, and that other countries are in much worse shape.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if she has looked at the ratings of the financial rating agencies lately?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-62823851183469367782009-01-23T21:45:00.000+02:002009-01-23T21:45:00.000+02:00Has anyone seen the actual gas and transit agreeme...Has anyone seen the actual gas and transit agreements?<BR/><BR/>They are government documents, and they should be public.<BR/><BR/>Tymo is being a bit disingenuous - well, OK, dishonest - here.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt that what she has done is to calculate an average price over 2009.<BR/><BR/>Given that the price is to be revised quarterly, I don't see how she can honestly say that there is simply "one price."<BR/><BR/>If she had said that this was forecast to be an average price over the coming year, I would believe her.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt that she is taking into account fewer purchases of rooshan gas during the first quarter, based on Ukraine's gas reserves in storage, which she herself publicly announced as a bargaining chip during the gas war.<BR/><BR/>Yushchenko did the same thing with his $179 price - it amounts to political posturing, because it did not take into account RosUkrEnergo's 20% cut for Ukrainian and rooshan/Kremlin/Gazprom slush funds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com