tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post4963148844483417299..comments2023-09-17T10:57:35.535+03:00Comments on Ukrainiana: Oops!... She Did It AgainTarashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-65831801542604215362008-09-08T09:34:00.000+03:002008-09-08T09:34:00.000+03:00That's exactly my point! We the people are out on ...That's exactly my point! We the people are out on our own.Tarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-67119656920470713852008-09-07T17:19:00.000+03:002008-09-07T17:19:00.000+03:00Well, Taras, it seems to me that prevention is bet...Well, Taras, it seems to me that prevention is better than cure.<BR/><BR/>One ought to stand up for Ukraine in order to avoid any doubt, and in order to avoid a war.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, I think you are right - the only ones capable of foresight and planning in Ukraine are the "political elite" - but only with respect to the non-stop chess game for the next elections.<BR/><BR/>That is a very narrow, limited field, and while the "political elite" are playing their chess games, they are insanely ravaging the country with their own food fights - to the huge detriment of Ukraine.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, if the people don't stand up for their own country, before any war, they can't expect anyone else to do so for them. It doesn't work that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-8198472000000446842008-09-07T12:24:00.000+03:002008-09-07T12:24:00.000+03:00With all the money they’ve siphoned out of Ukraine...With all the money they’ve siphoned out of Ukraine, I think they’ll be fine. <BR/><BR/>And, of course, it takes a full-scale war to find out who will stand up for Ukraine.Tarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-9627945204199444982008-09-06T17:03:00.000+03:002008-09-06T17:03:00.000+03:00If the Ukrainian oligarchs leave on their jets and...If the Ukrainian oligarchs leave on their jets and yachts, even if they have money tucked away elsewhere, which they do, the base of assets and the candy store will be gone.<BR/><BR/>But that still leaves the question:<BR/><BR/>who will stand up for Ukraine?<BR/><BR/>or is it "last one leaving Ukraine, turn out the lights?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-45155667528618828502008-09-05T09:43:00.000+03:002008-09-05T09:43:00.000+03:00If Russia attacks Ukraine, the oligarchs will be t...If Russia attacks Ukraine, the oligarchs will be the first to board their jets and get the hell out of here.Tarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-75333300823864807742008-09-04T19:31:00.000+03:002008-09-04T19:31:00.000+03:00Taras, you are absolutely right about Khodorkovsky...Taras, you are absolutely right about Khodorkovsky - the point is, of course, that if Ukrainian oligarchs think that by buddying up to Vlad Dracul Putin they're going to get some sort of safe haven with roosha, they have another think coming.<BR/><BR/>They will wind up in Siberia, like Khodorkovsky, because there are no guarantees with a maniac like Putin or with roosha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-79599043061662351182008-09-04T15:07:00.000+03:002008-09-04T15:07:00.000+03:00Can't argue with that, Anonymous!Elmer, when Kuchm...Can't argue with that, Anonymous!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Elmer, when Kuchma sold Ukraine’s nuclear arsenal — the world’s third-largest — for IMF loans, I was 14. At that time, I was a kid studying in a special English class, trying to get the best knowledge I could. I steeped myself in American books. My parents did <I>not</I> vote for Kuchma. Nor did they steal anything.<BR/><BR/>Khodorkovsky certainly came across as a holy martyr in the eyes of Western investors who owned Yukos ADRs. But his "success story" doesn’t quite measure up to Bill Gates’s. Nor does his political imprisonment resemble the fate of the people who had worked and died as slaves in the Gulag. Khodorkovsky got in trouble when the Kremlin considered him a threat and singled him out so that similarly minded oligarchs could learn their lessons<BR/><BR/>Here’s an <A HREF="http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=794931" REL="nofollow">interesting discussion</A> between US liberals and conservatives on what America would get from letting Ukraine into NATO.<BR/><BR/>Now that we have no nukes and little hope of NATO membership, we only have ourselves to rely on in dealing with Russia. The West can do some talking, but when Hurricane Vladimir comes, we’re out on our own. <BR/><BR/>I feel somewhat attracted to conservatives on US foreign policy toward Ukraine, but my estimates of Ukraine’s admission to NATO remain just as conservative.Tarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-332950818667254092008-09-03T22:56:00.000+03:002008-09-03T22:56:00.000+03:00One could take a roomful of schoolchildren who cou...One could take a roomful of schoolchildren who could and do a much, much better job than the Ukrainian "political elite."<BR/><BR/>The Ukrainian Parliament did absolutely NOTHING for months. Well, except that the Party of Regions tried to shove through a no-confidence vote against Tymoshenko, which failed.<BR/><BR/>The article is true - Ukraine seems to have institutionalized black political comedy. Topping the list is the maniacal, toxic "relationship" between Yushchenko and Tymoshenko.<BR/><BR/>It's not hard to figure out - rasha has NEVER had any sort of humanitarian, decent government. roosha has ALWAYS had a brutal form of government, especially when it comes to Ukraine.<BR/><BR/>So why on earth would any sane person want to buddy up with roosha?<BR/><BR/>Finally, I have heard over and over from Ukrainians "don't tell us what to do, you can't teach us any lessons."<BR/><BR/>Now, it's "the West must help us."<BR/><BR/>Ukrainians may think they can have it both ways (there it is, the infamous "Ukrainian third way"), but that's not the way things work.<BR/><BR/>If the Ukrainian "political elite" doesn't get its act together, and fast, they're going to be sitting with Khodorkovsky in Siberia.<BR/><BR/>If the Ukrainian nation doesn't get its act together, and fast, they're going to be polishing rooskie boots, which will be firmly lodged on their throats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-32949976084299049962008-09-03T20:24:00.000+03:002008-09-03T20:24:00.000+03:00It’s a tragicomedy!As Ukrainians wrangle over thei...It’s a tragicomedy!<BR/><BR/>As Ukrainians wrangle over their country’s destination, Old Europe doesn’t seem to welcome the idea of NATO membership for them, even if they wanted it.<BR/><BR/>Even if America elects McCain, it remains unclear whether Ukraine will get a welcome from NATO. Here’s a romantic “<A HREF="http://www.nationalinterest.org/Article.aspx?id=19758" REL="nofollow">what if</A>” article on how things would be different had Ukraine retained its nuclear deterrent.<BR/><BR/>Washington wanted us without nukes. We gave up our nukes. And what did we get for those nukes? We got crooks. We got those IMF loans and a bunch of overnight high net worth individuals who owe their fortunes to our Latin American-style income distribution. We got politicians who serve their interests and live in luxury while the country's population continues to decline, from 52 million in 1991 to a little over 46 million in 2008.<BR/><BR/>Many in the West still call us “the Ukraine” and view us as part of Russia. When I read articles like <A HREF="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4607471.ece" REL="nofollow">this one</A>, I wonder if Old Europe would even fight for the former Warsaw Pact countries and the Baltics, if they were attacked by Evil Empire 2.<BR/><BR/>So how about we change NATO to <B>No Aid To Offer</B>?Tarashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18139892487573795049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19297350.post-54074375605356920332008-09-03T17:25:00.000+03:002008-09-03T17:25:00.000+03:00Divine comedy? No, sir, it's an insane asylum.The...Divine comedy? No, sir, it's an insane asylum.<BR/><BR/>The Polish Parliament has UNANIMOUSLY passed a resolution for Ukraine and Georgia to be admitted to NATO.<BR/><BR/>Why on earth would NATO want inmates from an insane asylum as members?<BR/><BR/>In Ukraine, the voters ought to FINALLY come to their senses.<BR/><BR/>While the absolutely idiotic Ukrainians are arguing amongst themselves, rasha will simply step in and take over. That's the history of Ukraine.<BR/><BR/>The national anthem of Ukraine starts out: "Ukraine is not dead yet"<BR/><BR/>That's because the inmates that are running the insane asylum don't recognize death when they see it.<BR/><BR/>Thank you, Baloha and company -- for nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com