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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Kuzhel on Death & Pensions for Zarobitchany

She confuses discounts with bribes. She wears a $40K watch. She’s such a fair lady.

Oleksandra Kuzhel: We’ll give them [migrant workers] their own right to legalize the money they earned so that they can safely repatriate, and, by the same token, they’ll have their years of work [abroad] count toward their pensions, which is...I believe, a fair policy. Besides, they’ll also have the opportunity to be insured. Now what does that mean? If a person comes to Ukraine and becomes ill, they have the right to a sick leave, they have the right to maternity benefits, and they have the right to have money for their burial.

How about they have the right to throw out the corrupt officials out of the country? How about they exercise that right before those officials depopulate and bury this country?

Kuzhel wants to lure back a few million Ukrainian zarobitchany (migrant workers) with a very interesting concept of fairness: Rob Peter to pay Paul. (So that Viktor can stage another Paul McCartney concert or show us some more of those lovely dead animals?)

I digress. Suppose I spent 10 years working hard and paying taxes as a live-in maid in Italy because I couldn't find a decent job in my corrupt country.

So if and when I go back to Ukraine, the poor folks there who don’t wear $40K watches should pay me for those 10 years when I retire? Is that fair?

How does that square with our defined benefit pension system?

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Anonymous said...

Not that Kuzhel is an amazing human being, or anything, but...
I think the idea is that legalizing the earnings of Ukrainians working abroad means taxing them. If Ukrainians pay the UA government, taxes on their earnings, then a pension might be fair in that situation. The taxes paid would usually reduce what these workers pay in the foreign countries where they are employed, so that this is something Ukraine might make more money on, to buy purses for Kuzhel.

Taras said...

Good point!

In fact, the government's decision to tax zarobitchany has sparked a public outcry in the Ukrainian community in Italy.

However, the move would be perfectly legitimate if applied to Ukrainians who plan to use Ukraine's defined benefit system when they retire and repatriate.

So, you're right: If "legalization" means paying taxes in Ukraine for every year spent working abroad, then one's years of work abroad should indeed count toward one's pension in Ukraine.

That makes sense.